@dirge74592 ปีที่แล้ว +13
Seeing their Steam page for their new RTS game doesn't fill me with hope when I saw the tags: F2P, Esports, PVP"
Honestly just feels like they've wasted a few yrs setting up yet another studio that's going to go completely ham on F2P micro transactions and PVP/Esports. Even when you made your "why the enxt RTS will fail", it's like devs decided to ignore what you stated and go against it instead out of spite or something.
RTS really doesn't need a new game putting big focus on F2P/PVP/Esports. We need a brand new memorable game that isn't always online, has a price point and a campaign that's going to be remembered fondly for yrs like C&C/Starcraft/Warcraft's are remembered for.
They can be "legit" all they want, but going F2P and making yet another esports focused RTS just screams failure and refusal to learn, imo.
We know they have 4 pillars for this game, but in all honesty, PVP takes more resources over time from the other pillars due to balance changes, the esports focus, the promos to show off, focus on getting pro players in the big league seats/shows, all of which could instead be funnelled into more co-op and PVE content like a campaign expansion or sequel. I just don't ever want us to go back to the days where PVP takes priority in RTS games, because as someone that grew up with the genre as my core favourite 9still is to this day), I do not play PVP within the genre anymore, nor do I want to see it encompass new RTS games, because that then pushes me out of my favourite and already dwindling genre.
As a side note, battle passes, skins and tid bit content being sold at a pop really puts me off wanting to play just about any game these days. I want to buy the game once and own the content that comes with it, not play a game and buy thousands of pounds worth of content, because they wanted to nickel/dime me. F2P really isn't the end all to be all model for everyone.
@user-lt4ih7ip4x2 ปีที่แล้ว +2
Well SC2 was pretty heavily focused on Esports and it didn't make it a terrible game in any way. And these are THE GUYS who made SC2, so it's not totaly ureasonable to think that they might know what they are doing.
As said in the video they are going to focus story, coop and give a lot of tools to the mod makers, so I don't understand why you think they have ignored everything in the GGG's video about rts games. They told it was their focus from the start, even before GGG made his video.
Free to play part bothers me a little, if you remember GGG's video, he told about a pretty good increase in playerbase of sc2 by making it f2p. Developers have seen those stats, so they know how much more players they can bring in to the game by making it f2p
The tough part will be for them to keep on their promises tho...@dirge74592 ปีที่แล้ว
@@user-lt4ih7ip4x Everyone thought CDPR could do no wrong either, but then we got Cyberpunk...
I love me some well known devs myself, but I know they are human, they are fully capable of releasing a bad game or making the wrong decisions.
I've gone through years of let downs with RTS, so I'm not exactly as heavily optimistic as you and GGG appear to be.
I also don't want to be that guy that gets told I'm being unreasonable, then what was said prior comes true and me calling it and everyone who said I was unreasonable just shrugging their should and trying to walk off blame free (because I see that ever so often in the games industry).
if I'm wrong, cool, we all win and get a good game, but if I'm right, I'm expecting no walk aways from the overly optimistic folk.@user-lt4ih7ip4x2 ปีที่แล้ว
@@dirge7459 Lol, we are sure gonna have to stand trial for our sins against your opinion XD
It won't surprise me if game is going to fail cause of many many reasons. It's just that it's not fair to compare this team to every other rts developers that failed cause everything they've said so far is the right approach to the game if you want it to be not just good, but great
For now we are going to wait for the gameplay to see if they are not going in gameplay direction of Dawn of War 3 or something like that@dirge74592 ปีที่แล้ว
@@user-lt4ih7ip4x lol I'm not asking for trials, I'm basically wanting folks who are overly optimistic to be a bit more realistic and if what was called comes to pass, that they admit they were wrong, but since it's the net, most ppl don't like admitting fault.
I don't recall bringing up failed RTS dev studios tbh, but I don't see why you cannot recall history to others, so that they do not doom themselves to repeat the same mistakes.
Did you love DoW 3?, because from a good chunk of the RTS/ DoW fans, 3 wasn't that great compared to 1 and 2 tried to switch to tactics, which again split the community.@user-lt4ih7ip4x2 ปีที่แล้ว
@@dirge7459 I have brought DoW 3 cause it was a failure and not an as example of a good game, in case that wasn't clear
I tend to agree with you about not being overly optimistic, but that's a very safe position if you want to be mostly always right. That's just the state of the game industry these days. But I don't see anything wrong about being sometimes optimistic about games that sound like something very good in theory. Not hype, just optimistic
